June 12, 2008

Judge not

got milk.jpg What you can't say in the Los Angeles Times: "When the credits rolled, a preteen girl seated to my right exclaimed, 'That was [expletive] awesome!'"

What you can say:

Among the images on the site were a photo of naked women on all fours painted to look like cows and a video of a half-dressed man cavorting with a sexually aroused farm animal...

The sexually explicit material on the site was extensive, including images of masturbation, public sex and contortionist sex. There was a slide show striptease featuring a transsexual, and a folder that contained a series of photos of women's crotches in snug-fitting clothing or underwear....

Among the sexually explicit material on his site that he defended as humorous were two photos. In one, a young man is bent over in a chair and performing fellatio on himself. In the other, two women are sitting in what appears to be a cafe with their skirts hiked up to reveal their pubic hair and genitalia. Behind them is a sign reading "Bush for President."...

He also said he planned to get rid of a graphic step-by-step pictorial in which a woman is seen shaving her pubic hair.

The defense of self-censorship is always that children read these newspapers (as if) and that it is important to maintain a "sophisticated and civil tone." But as the Alex Kozinksi story shows, the real issue is certain taboo words. How can it be inappropriate for a young person to read that someone their own age said "fucking awesome" about a museum exhibit, yet be perfectly fine for them to read about a "half-dressed man cavorting with a sexually aroused farm animal"?

Normally in these posts I complain about how self-censorship actually makes straightforward news stories unnecessarily confusing or inaccurate. But in this case, it's the LAT's excessively clinical descriptions that give a false impression, especially when coupled with the repeated use of words like "pornographic" and "bestiality." When you actually see the pictures [NSFW@LAT] it's clear that Kozinski is being honest when he says posted them not because he thought they were sexy, but because he thought they were funny. Hell, the sexually aroused farm animal video is tagged both "Funny" and "Hilarious."

Frankly, I'm a little disturbed that anyone over the age of 14 -- much less a judge -- finds this crap funny. It's people like Kozinksi who are responsible for forwarding every dumb-ass picture they find on eBaum's world, and for that, sure, fire his ass. But for trafficking in pornography? I don't think so.

Posted by Daniel Radosh


half-dressed man cavorting with a sexually aroused farm animal

But doesn't cavorting sound like something playful, something you might do with teacher? with best friend's older brother? Better to let children think the judge had fun videos on his computer than a potty mouth.

This seems to me to be another example of a person in a position of influence railing against their own inner demons.
I'd like to see more in the mainstream press about this propensity... where, say, a violent homophobe harbors secret unspeakable desires. Or the Right wing republican staunchly defends strict family values while frequenting the company of a well known prostitute. It has become far too common that many of those who take the most radical or fundamental positions in support of an issue have deep seated resentments and antithapy toward those very positions. We need a peice on the brain chemistry of, "thou dost protest too much".

It's well past the point I automatically assume (as do the police) that the husband killed the wife and hid the body.

Also that Santorum is a raging closet homosexual. That Sean Hannity has a Hillary poster over his bed. Tipper Gore loves Chris Brown and Akon. That Jeremiah Wright really wants to move to Scarsdale. And that the Reverand Pfleger is a bigot of biblical proportions.

But then I'm a glass half empty kind of person.

Pessimist - real phenomenon, wrong target. Kozinski is a libertarian who has been quite open with his raunchy sense of humor.

Yeah, pessimist, this is one of those occasions that RTFA was created for.

And while I'm being contrary...

I'm a little disturbed that anyone over the age of 14 -- much less a judge -- finds this crap funny.

I have a hard time imagining bestiality photos that would actually be funny, but the example you've posted certainly is. There's a whole genre of "erotic" photos that straddle (oh baby) a line between sexy and funny, and different people might find a given photo to fall slightly on one side or the other.

"I'm a little disturbed that anyone over the age of 14 -- much less a judge -- finds this crap funny."
Why "much less a judge"? They start out as lawyers, who are people genetically predisposed to be sleezy.

pessimist, I don't want you to go away empty-handed, so pleast enjoy this with my compliments.

At least some of the stuff was apparently uploaded not by Kosinski himself but by his sons Yale and Wyatt (see comments for the latter). Dunno how old they are.

Vance: Great example article. It appears this newly out-of-a-job young republican has a little more than time on his hands.

Hey I'm over 14 and freely admit the dude that crapped his pants after/while bungee jumping is pretty funny - in a glad it's not me way.

The "Bush" supporters and the other assorted cow paint nudity? I'd submit it's about naked chicks being masked as mild humor. A picture of a vagina with a humorous caption is a solid way to oggle a vagina or forward a vagina image without the potential for recrimination over porn for porn's sake.

It's kind of like having a presciption for oxycontin verus buying herion on the street. Similar thrills are achieved, but public perceptions of the user/abuser are quite different.

Roger Rabbit, as I recall, couldn't get out of his handcuffs just ANY time, but only when it was funny.

Now you see this one-eyed midget
Shouting the word "NOW"
And you say, "For what reason ?"
And he says, "How ?"
And you say, "What does this mean ?"
And he screams back, "You're a cow
Give me some milk
Or else go home".

Because something is happening
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones

The computerized cache included ... a video of a man being pursued by a sexually aroused donkey

OK, I gotta admit, that does sound at least a little funny. Strike my "no bestiality" comment above.

Did you watch the video? It's not all that funny, even with the Benny Hill music.

Anon - I don't think anyone is saying Kozinski is gay (sorry, very obscure joke for Dylanologists only).

Sorry, one last one from reading further in that article...

"If you found this kind of thing in your kid's bedroom you would wash your kid's mouth out with soap. We expect more from a judge," said Laurie Levenson, a former federal prosecutor and law professor at Loyola University Law School.

Don't we want federal prosecutors who understand how the punishment fits the crime? Washing a kid's mouth out with soap is punishment for the kid speaking obscenities, not owning them. The punishment for the latter is the immediate loss of the offending items. For the latter I cite the noted legal scholars The Beastie Boys.

Daniel - I didn't mean I thought the video in question was necessarily funny, but my ability to imagine that possibility contradicted my earlier statement that I had, um, "a hard time" imagining that such a thing could be funny.

I think your used of the word "fired" is (unintentionally—I certainly know what you actually mean) misleading. (As you can see, people are outraged about this whole thing, without knowing why; they seem to think he is an animal-screwing enthusiast or something.) In any event: He's in no danger of being fired.

UPDATE: Justice was cowed

. Judge Kozinski recused himself from the obscenity case earlier today. How similar were the videos on his website and the images involved in the government's case against artist Ira Isaac? Not. Judge for yourself.

Compare the images posted on the Kozinski website to those from the videos the government claims are criminally obscene:

USA vs. Ira Isaacs art images

Pessimist, you nailed it with:
"We need a piece on the brain chemistry of, 'thou dost protest too much'."

We know precisely the mechanism that this pathology springs from. Unfortunately, the article which exactly explains it is too long to paste the pertinent paragraphs here. So here are just two:

"Sexual repression breeds foul imaginings. Which of necessity fixate on the sexual. What has been rendered foul within runs amuck in the world. Following the dictates of a punitive super-ego the psyche becomes obsessed with the attack on sexuality. The purpose is to render evil virtually everything connected with sex until life itself is reduced to an allegory in which the battle of good and evil is all about the temptations of the flesh, as if nothing else in life matters so complete is the vindictive fixation of the Deity on the human genitals.

"The eroticization of thanatos [the death wish] necessarily has a flip side: the demonization of eros. The libidinal economy on which fundamentalism rests is as simple as it is devastating. Eros must be turned into evil, sin, pollution. So that all of one's desire can go into thanatos. Or vice-versa. Once destructiveness has been eroticized all one's energies become fixated on the erotic since it poses the greatest threat to the resentment one feels toward life in general. The chicken-egg question of temporal priority misses the necessary dialectical connection. The only way to triumph over eros is by eroticizing death. And the only way to secure that eroticization is by projecting guilt, sin, resentment and punishment into every aspect of human sexuality."

-- from: "The Psychology of Christian Fundamentalism", by Walter A. Davis

This reminds me of Kenneth Pinyan, or should I say Mr. Hands ?

I have three things to say:

1. Most 14-year-olds I know have a far more sophisticated sense of humor than I do;

2. Autofellatio pics never fail to fascinate, evoking as they do cherished memories of Boy Scout camp; and

3. If the Holstein-painted girls don't turn me on, is it because I'm gay, or lactose intolerant?

Do you fully appreciate & understand Kozinski's deep interest in cows, milk, and Government Farm programs. If not, to enlighten you, and the world,
here is what Kozinski had on the I-net, and it was:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Start from Koz
From: The Easy Rider
FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them, and sells you the milk.
PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them and the government takes all the milk.

GATEWAY 2000: You have two cows but you have to kill them because they look like two cows owned by a mammoth computer company. In exchange you get to keep a letter from a nasty lawyer.
>>>>>>>>End from Koz

google it if you care to confirm. No joshing it is right thre in black and white, from a google

So, now that this little PIC flap has spilled over;
would a more appropriate line-chime on Cows, milk, and Koz real time be:

Koz had two cows, he milked them for all they were worth, and then he called the cows, the awesome Government power trippers, then he rewired his office Chambers, to filter out the Dept of Justice motions, then the cows figured they got more money for Koz by mooing for PICS.
Then, FOX News did a number on Koz, and made him out to be wacko world in black robes in a circus(the master Clown, court jester), and the 9th Circuit was split into 5 separte districts.

Some of you may be too young to remember it was Nixon's crony in Texas who was alleged to have taken bribes to keep the milk farm supports real high, and the latest farm bill gave away billions of your tax money to greedy Corporate farmers, Corporate milking : BIG TIME
How about the PIC of the real cow and the tits, on Koz's computer, that really sent people into a tizzy, knowing how badly they are getting ripped off by the Bush Admin/ Congress, and the D. C crazy world

Over here in England we have to make do with cows painted to look like women. You guys should count yourselves lucky!

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