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Am I nut for asking why the fact that gays cant (or use to cant) get the state or federal government to affirm the importance of their relationship should mean the the law should be changed to allow stupid and useless government intervention for everyone? I know you'll all moan about health insurance for spouses but thats a choice for the insurer and insuree. Does the fact that Radosh cant marry his lover mean he doesnt love him?

Does the fact that you're married to your wife automatically entitle you to all her assets tax-free upon her death, or is it because you love her? And since in some likelihood you don't, what then?

So love is the only litmus test of whether health insurance, inheritance, and swimming pool memberships should recognize a joint legal entity? How do you propose that our institutions determine someone is in love then, mood rings or buttercup flowers?

I'm sorry... I didn't actually answer your question. It's yes.

Isn't it government intervention to NOT allow gay marriage?

Frankly I'm looking forwad to the first big messy gay divorce. It's front page news, after all, that Bill Murray is divorcing his longtime wife over allegations of abuse. And they don't have matching genitalia.

Is "wife" or "husband" going to become even less de rigueur I wonder? I'm not a fan of partner, and spouse seems too technical.

Time for a new lexicon I think.

@Anonymous: Actually, the Calif. court half agreed with you. It ruled that an acceptable solution would be to get the state out of the marriage business altogether. Offer civil unions with attendant rights to all applicants and let religious, cultural, and civic institutions decide who they want to marry or not marry.

first big messy gay divorce.

Sadly the law came two weeks too late for that to be Jodie and Cydney. I give Ellen and Portia 2 years max.

Seems to me that one advantage of gay marriage is that everyone can use wife or husband, and we can get rid of ridiculous terms like partner, lover, and boy/girlfriend for people over 25. Why would wife/husband now be less common?

Hey, I just had a great idea for a new reality show.

Hmmm, I believe husband is derived from manager and wife is derived from mistress [of the house]. Easily wrong about that of course (and archaic in terms of current sociology), but can one have two mistresses of a household and two managers?

My real question is whether the FLDS will allow a man to have more than one husband. It could be an effective membership drive. I believe the scientologists are working on a similar concept, only it's for mixed sex polygamy - So Tom could marry Katie for the cameras and John for the head...

Comment overheard on the Staten Island Ferry during a.m. rush hour (Made by a middle-aged woman looking at a pic of 2 young women getting hitched):

"Such a shame. They're both pretty enough to find a man."

Hey, I just had a great idea for a new reality show.

Cast the belly dancer and I'll watch. But I think it will be the Lohanboobies/Morton break-up.

I meant Ronson.

To pessimist, you ask,
"So love is the only litmus test of whether health insurance, inheritance, and swimming pool memberships should recognize a joint legal entity? How do you propose that our institutions determine someone is in love then, mood rings or buttercup flowers?"

Those 'institutions' can figure that out for themselves instead of having the most inefficient, corrupt and aimless institution possible, government, figure it out for them. Really, love and marriage should be lorded over by government because private groups cant make head or tails of it? Of course I dont misunderstand you, because the thing you desire is for all those institutions to have to honor your idea of marriage because the gov' enforces it. You dont desire many forms of government control im sure, but you naively think that a government that can enforce just those things YOU desire, it wont shove down your throat things you dont want. Grow up, if the gov can make your pool club accept two gays as married, it can make your kids pray in school. Im probably about as liberal as you are, but you want to ameliorate a stupid system, I'd rather it made overall sense.

Here's my 2 two cents:
Marriage: 2 adults in a relationship codified under
MARRIAGE, a body of law which defines shared HOUSEHOLDs.
Why should sex specific issues come into the discussion? Why?

"if the gov can make your pool club accept two gays as married, it can make your kids pray in school."

I think we may actually agree, since I agree the gov't shouldn't be deciding who should NOT be allowed to marry. My thinking is, since they are already involved in the legal side of the relationship, they need to be more open minded about who can join. I'm more than fine with everyone being considered having civil unions from the US Gov standpoint. Let the gay community then argue with the various churches if they want some form of ceremonial certificate...

Oh, I'm actually fine with school prayer so long as the goth kids get to loudly chant satanic verses.